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Saints1
21st January 2014, 04:50 PM
I have read in a Facebook group that the National Trust are not allowing any caches on their land which involve tree climbing. Can this please be verified.

richlay
21st January 2014, 06:41 PM
All I have seen relating to this is an insistence in one location that appropriate safety equipment is used. Do you have any specifics?

martybartfast
21st January 2014, 08:47 PM
The FC New Forest agreement was updated towards the end of last year and specifically prohibits climbiing:

https://www.gagb.org.uk/agreement_view.php?p=1

Oops, just realised the Q was about National Trust, not Forestry Comission :p.

martybartfast
21st January 2014, 09:04 PM
Apparently the word is being put out by "parmstro" who is the NT/Geocaching liaison, and I've seen this reported on FaceBook by two cache owners who have been contacted about this.

Yorkshire Yellow
22nd January 2014, 01:20 PM
I have read in a Facebook group that the National Trust are not allowing any caches on their land which involve tree climbing. Can this please be verified.

I wonder if the person in question has read their own "50 things to do before you're 11¾" book? See #1 on https://www.50things.org.uk/media/1235645/English%20A4%20list%20poster%20final.pdf

martybartfast
22nd January 2014, 03:07 PM
I wonder if the person in question has read their own "50 things to do before you're 11¾" book? See #1 on https://www.50things.org.uk/media/1235645/English%20A4%20list%20poster%20final.pdf

Ha Ha, that's funny. So they're recommending you do 1 ( climb a tree) and 49 (find a geocache), as long as you don't do them both at the same time :eek: .

Saints1
22nd January 2014, 04:44 PM
All I have seen relating to this is an insistence in one location that appropriate safety equipment is used. Do you have any specifics?


As Martybartfast has said parmstro is letting people know if they have caches on NT land.

richlay
22nd January 2014, 08:36 PM
A Facebook post has just been made which suggests this is relevant to Surrey only. Hopefully Dax will be able to clarify better, as custodian of GLAD.

parmstro
22nd January 2014, 10:12 PM
My original post on Facebook made it all clear, but Chinese whispers seem to have entered in, so here it is:

"fyi - I am the coordinator for placing caches on NT land in Surrey, and have just been told that climbing caches of any kind (trees, rocks, abseils etc.) are not allowed any more on NT land in Surrey."

As it very clearly stated, SURREY only at this point.

I am meeting with the Surrey NT on Monday to discuss.

Try Googling Morden NT tree surgeon for a possible explanation.

Maple Leaf
23rd January 2014, 07:26 AM
Thanks for info Parmstro. If you could let the committee know the outcome of the meeting, then the Surrey NT agreement on GLAD can be updated.

Graculus
24th January 2014, 03:59 PM
This is getting confusing. There is a 'national' NT agreement in the GLAD for caches. But there is an increasing number of regional agreements - currently 5. The one for North Kent and Surrey (well, bits of Surrey) have completely different processes for applying for permission (contact a geocacher) to the national agreement (contact regional office). A couple of the NT agreements in the GLAD show as being under negotiation.

Could the whole country NT agreement be looked at to simplify things?

Chris
Graculus
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Sharon - Sharant
4th April 2014, 04:13 PM
As requested by NT Surrey and update has been added GLAD stating that "Caches must not be placed up trees or on cliffs, where it would necessitate climbing or abseiling to retrieve them." At the moment it is only NT Surrey that has requested no climbing.