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Thread: TUK - new status code for Undead trigs?

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    Sagina nivalis Guest

    Question TUK - new status code for Undead trigs?

    How about an additional code on TUK to cover trigs which are somewhere between Damaged and Definitely Missing? i.e. just the base, maybe converted to a Surface Block, or bits of stone / concrete in the cairn, such as Craig Pwllfa
    http://www.trigpointinguk.com/trigs/...ils.php?t=2501

    The main advantage is that you could see at a glance whether there's something there to look for, without having to trawl thru pages of logs - interesting though that is . It would thus need a new icon.

    What do other triggers think?

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    That's not a bad idea. A lot of pillars have had their centre plugs removed/replaced with resin or something. From the start of my trigpointing, I've always marked these as 'slightly damaged' although the rest of the pillar may be perfect. I know in some instances this contradicts how other people have rated it.
    John
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    So, would TP6976 Windmill Hill fall in to this catagory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear and Ragged View Post
    So, would TP6976 Windmill Hill fall in to this catagory?
    A good example - several have logged it as Good, which as far as the Surface Block is concerned, is true. As fasgadh says in his 2004 log; "Need a new category. Pillars missing, but the stud is alive and well. "

    SBs are a bit of a problem though - are they remains of the old base or newly constructed? Even so, they would qualify for the new category, as there is something there.

    What to call the new category? Remains? Remnants?

    Rob

    PS how do you post the link and change the overlaid text to TP6976 Windmill Hill?

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    PS how do you post the link and change the overlaid text to TP6976 Windmill Hill?
    'Cos I'm a smart ar5e!

    Put the words in the post.
    Copy the link URL.
    Click on the globe with a chain link (insert link) -11 along on second row above. ( B I U etc)
    Paste copied URL into box that appears.

    Voila!
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    [QUOTE=Pharisee;18557]A lot of pillars have had their centre plugs removed/replaced with resin or something. From the start of my trigpointing, I've always marked these as 'slightly damaged' although the rest of the pillar may be perfect. [QUOTE]

    Yes some follow this practice although most call these Good. Either way has its logic. By the way did you get that Harris trig you were asking about, way back in the days of the old Forum?

    And very well done for liberating the Warden Tunnel trig. (Hey it works - thanks, Bear and Ragged )

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    Default Need Non-Visit category too

    Could I also ask for a "non-visit" category that doesn't get totalled up.
    I've added a few notes to trigs to ask for the T:UK admin to correct some problems, but I've not been to said trig.

    Reading some of the logs, some could fit into "I was in the broad area, didn't actually look for the trig/stud/block, but I'll tick it anyway" category. Why they don't log this as "Couldn't Find It" I do not know.

    Ray

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    Default Trig Pillar - Condition / Status.

    Hi,

    There seem to be two different questions for which I'd like throw in my twopence worth.

    Where there are only identified bits of pillar on site, "REMAINS".

    Where a pillar is now a block "CONVERTED". I such cases, in pillar IS destroyed, but the trig point is not destroyed - does that make sense?

    There are quite a lot of situations where pillars have been converted to blocks. These are indentified in the OS archive. I have also tried to include comments to that effect in the Trigonomy database although I know I have still many to detect.

    Anyway these are just my suggestions. The important thing is that TrigpointingUK is fully functional again, and at this juncture I would like a express my appreciation to Ian, Brian, Barry and anyone else involved for all their efforts.


    Best wishes,

    Graeme

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    Quote Originally Posted by clochandighter View Post
    Where there are only identified bits of pillar on site, "REMAINS".

    Where a pillar is now a block "CONVERTED". I such cases, in pillar IS destroyed, but the trig point is not destroyed - does that make sense?
    Absolutely. I guess the SB should be User-added if not already on the site, and the trig logged as Definitely Missing. Then "Remains" should work.

    Quote Originally Posted by clochandighter View Post
    The important thing is that TrigpointingUK is fully functional again, and at this juncture I would like a express my appreciation to Ian, Brian, Barry and anyone else involved for all their efforts.
    Amen to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by clochandighter View Post
    There seem to be two different questions for which I'd like throw in my twopence worth.

    Where there are only identified bits of pillar on site, "REMAINS".

    Where a pillar is now a block "CONVERTED". I such cases, in pillar IS destroyed, but the trig point is not destroyed - does that make sense?
    Seconded.

    I've noticed that when the details for 'user added' trigs are downloaded to GSAK the location data disappears, making all such points a uniform 6206.88 Kilometres from home! Don't know if that can be sorted; it might be to do with the conversion of OS GRs to Long/Lat degrees.

    It would be good to have Curry Stools and the like identified as such too.

    The important thing is that TrigpointingUK is fully functional again, and at this juncture I would like a express my appreciation to Ian, Brian, Barry and anyone else involved for all their efforts.
    Life was miserable without it...:wub:

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentmancuso View Post
    I've noticed that when the details for 'user added' trigs are downloaded to GSAK the location data disappears,
    GSAK=?

    It would be good to have Curry Stools and the like identified as such too.
    That could mean the User-adder would have a drop-down list of Trig types to select from when User-adding. Otherwise this would be an additional burden on Admin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagina nivalis View Post
    GSAK=?
    It's a database (or "waypoint management tool", as they say..) developed for geocachers. I do a bit of that too, on the side, but I mainly use it for keeping tracking of trig logs. It can be interfaced with Anquet (and probably other similar mapping systems too) and the GPS. Saves manual entry of waypoints etc. It's free to try for a bit from here, and I find it works very well.

    That could mean the User-adder would have a drop-down list of Trig types to select from when User-adding. Otherwise this would be an additional burden on Admin.
    Yes, ideal.

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    Should have said - GSAK is good for Benchmarks too, as it picks up the .gpx files from the 'Download to GPS' option available after a search is done. Only thing is, you have to add in your own visit date manually, unlike the comparable download from trigpointinguk, which is personalised.

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    Smile LR108 Undead trigs

    Not exactly news, but these two are still alive and unwell
    Bates Farm just the base and rebars, buried. Last recorded in 2004.
    Rixton Moss refound by ted in 2006. I've logged this is Toppled or Moved, as there's a large intact foundation nearby, although I couldn't find the pillar itself, despite doorknocking and a quick look around the yard in the hope of finding either the trig or someone to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagina nivalis View Post
    By the way did you get that Harris trig you were asking about, way back in the days of the old Forum?

    And very well done for liberating the Warden Tunnel trig.
    No, the Harris trig was left for another day. If I'd have been on my own, I'd probably have given it a go but I had a companion for the only day I had available and he was very reluctant to take on that sort of hike. I didn't feel it would be right to leave him on his own for the day.... It was raining, too

    In a masochistic sort of way I really enjoyed the Warden Tunnel thing. I got quite a sense of achievement from being the first to touch it for who knows how long
    John
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