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    Sagina nivalis Guest

    Unhappy The Untouchables

    I thought I'd start a thread on unreachable trigs: maybe some pooled knowledge will result in progress.

    England, there are several which are just awkward and needing luck or permission.
    The only show-stoppers I can think of are Fort Borstal: I met the lady: "This is our home and we don't allow people in"; Fort Rowner may be unfeasible too - needs a letter to base commander. But at least the latter is visible.

    Scotland, the stopper seems to be Mam Mor; others I can think of are Eastriggs and Kinniny Braes. I've only been (near) to the first of these.

    Rob

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    North Hill may or may not be unreachable depending on sveltness (sveltitude?)opcorn:

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    Clearbury Ring TP2212 is very near a cache of mine, but though it's visible from a nearby field, which itself has no right of way and no legal public access, it's ten feet (3 metres) beyond a barbed wire fence and buried in woodland.

    Bishopstone Down TP1399 is in the middle of a crop field with no right of way closer than about 300 yards (300 metres) - it's (just) visible from the nearest right of way, but unapproachable without flattening the crops.
    ​​Do not go gentle into that good night.
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    Therfield TP6435
    is is a water board compund. Visible but unreachable.
    Happy Caching

    Gazooks

    - Setting a good example for children takes all the fun out of middle age.

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    Householders might in some cases be a bit alarmed by the unexpected appearance of a typical trig bagger on their doorstep. Faced with the need to make an instant decision on whether to grant access or not, they might well be suspicious.

    In the case of Flamborough FBM, a web search plus help from members of Trigonomy identified the owners name; I then wrote (enclosing an SAE) to request a visit, and followed-up with a phone call to negotiate a suitable time. That approach worked fine and might be worth a try for Fort Borstal.

    For military trigs, I wonder if it is worth trying to gain semi-official backing from the OS (its a pity that Richard Short has retired); something about a research group intererested in the current status of triangulation artefacts might help convince the authorities that we are strange but harmless.


    Regards,
    Ted

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    Another thought...

    http://www.heritageopendays.org/ arrange access once a year to "properties that are usually closed to the public".

    I checked their list last year and couldn't see anything of trig significance; this year's list has yet to be published. Reservoir or military trigs are unlikely to be quite what they had in mind; but Knowsley Park, http://www.trigpointinguk.com/trigs/...ils.php?t=4307 has nearby monuments and might be nearer the mark - but I see that RHW has already bagged this one hmy:


    Regards
    Ted

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    The only one I can think of is TP0751 Bembridge Fort (IOW)

    http://www.trigpointinguk.com/trigs/...ails.php?t=751

    I got in by pure chance, but it certainly looks sealed up to access now.

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    Sagina nivalis Guest

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    North Hill - must get there soon before that gap disappears!

    This reminds me of Barr Beacon, a Resr, but sounds easy at present.

    Fort Borstal - good suggestion, thanks. I should do some research.

    Bembridge - luckily not a Pillar so I'm in the clear It's a "Yeaman" summit though so it would be good to get to the actual summit - good to know it might be doable with a slice of luck.

    Gorse Hill turned out to quite easy Fri eve - slat loose (but don't tell the Water Co)

    TPB - your Saxavord seems tricky at present - varying success by recent visitors. Wish I'd got a proper look when I bagged the summit

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    Just read the additional comments on Saxavord. IIRC the flush bracket is not facing the fence.

    Bembridge Fort used to be a Pillar apparently, I have an email somewhere about it

    Quote from GP

    "Bembrdge Fort was pillar S2418. It was Secondary Station 5 in Secondary Block SU31, the same designation as the present day block. Clearly the block (complete with bolt/rivet) replaced the pillar, date unknown but probably a long time ago, and possibly before 1942 when the SecBlock was computed. The original pillar would have been built around March 1939"


    but i suppose you knew this

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    Im always surprised that trigpoints are not considered national heritage or modern ancient monuments.
    "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning."

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    TP4307 guarded by lions?

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    We tried http://www.trigpointinguk.com/trigs/...ils.php?t=3237 Fort Scoveston, and couldn't negotiate the fort. Looks a SUPERB place though, really wanna go back now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopUpPirate View Post
    couldn't negotiate the fort.
    That'll teach you to check the logs first. just like I never do ... (how was the earthcaching?)

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    The earth caching was great fun, thanks... not half as much fun as the fort looked, mind I must learn to develop a brass neck


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    Quote Originally Posted by PopUpPirate View Post
    The earth caching was great fun, thanks... not half as much fun as the fort looked, mind I must learn to develop a brass neck
    All little subterfuge usually does the trick: park the car a little way off and nip in when no-one's looking

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