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    When it's been approved (as there's no requirement to take part in the Go Ape activities I think it's when, not if!) I'll post a link to GC1EE9V, but in the meantime, from the event page:

    Monkeying Around in Wendover Woods (Bucks)
    Sunday September 14th, from 12pm at Wendover Woods, near Aylesbury, Bucks.


    Parking at the main car park (follow Wendover Woods signs, the entrance is opposite the golf course) is 3 all day, but if you continue along the road (or stop early if coming from the south of the woods) to N51 45.930 W000 41.874 you'll find other, free parking with access close by. A little 0.8mile walk to the event site from there though - Bring a bike?

    There is no requirement to take part in the Go Ape activities to attend this event! But if you'd like to, prebooking is vital. At the moment there are 56 spaces available between 12pm-2pm on that Sunday. You can book via this link (amend the form details with the number in your group) or by calling 0870 444 5562 but please wait until the event has been approved if you're keen to get your smiley! If you're not taking part, there's under-cover seating, a cafe in the woods close by, BBQ areas, ample parking, loos etc.

    Important!:
    Go Ape's rules are you have to be 10 or over, and up to 17 years old you have to be accompanied by an 18+ adult. Minimum height is 140cm (4ft 7") and maximum weight is 130Kg (20.5 Stone). You need to wear suitable closed-toe shoes/boots, be physically fit and able to handle heights! If you chicken out before going too far you can get a refund. Non participants are free to watch 'Apes' (18+ 25 for around 2-3hours) and 'Baboons' (10-17years 20 for the same course) from below, take photos, throw bananas, etc.

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    [Bring your own ape suit]

    More information here as and when I have it, or feel free to ask questions

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    Awww that's a pity - me and mine will be up at the Rivington camping event. Hope you have fun

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    Ah: that's what it's all about! I couldn't make head or tail of it on the Groundspeak forum: seems to be written in some sort of gibbonish...

    And then the thread was closed so you couldn't even ask what was going on! Perhaps the way to proceed is to make the cache description a puzzle which leads to this rather more informative thread.

    I'm afraid that I'll be in Andalucia. Pity (quite).

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    Even though it's clear in the description that the Go Ape activities were optional the event has been archived before it could be edited to match (new? new interpretation of?) GS rules. I've requested that it's unarchived so I can amend the listing to pass 'the test of cachingness'. Stay tuned.

    Oh, and I was told I could appeal via appeals@geocaching.com if I wanted to. I laughed on the inside
    Last edited by Simply Paul; 28th August 2008 at 09:52 PM.

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    Surely you might as well submit a new event based on the old description (with revisions), which would save the un-archiving malarkey?

    The best way to get a full and detailed description of the Go Ape course in the event description is to first submit a waymark in the Fitness Trails category (http://www.waymarking.com/cat/detail...5-aaf66b8e4fdc). My experience is that waymarks get approved within a few hours, although a reminder might be necessary occasionally, but this category is new so they'll be welcoming new entries.

    Then all you do is link to this waymark in the Event description. GS can hardly object to a link which leads to their own website, and there's no restriction on submitting commercial fitness trails to Waymarking.

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    Please contact Groundspeak directly as requested to do so concerning the event, as they have decided that it is a commercial enterprise, the listing of a event there will have to have their approval. As this is beyond the remit of Volunteer Reviewers. The event submission was Archived on their instructions.

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    I'm delighted no obstacles are being put in my way on this one. It wasn't a commercial enterprise, the page made it clear any other activities available in the woods were wholly optional... I've not been requested to do anything; I was told no, and I could appeal if I wanted to. Happy Humphrey, it doesn't look like making a fresh, amended listing (my plan B) is going to make much difference. But I won't let that stop me trying

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    Call it : definitely NOT going ape

    then describe all the other things you will be doing and suggest people check out the woods via google etc..... leave it open to them to put 2+2=?

    Surely the powers that be can't complain that people going there might end up doing something off their own backs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simply Paul View Post
    I'm delighted no obstacles are being put in my way on this one. It wasn't a commercial enterprise, the page made it clear any other activities available in the woods were wholly optional... I've not been requested to do anything; I was told no, and I could appeal if I wanted to. Happy Humphrey, it doesn't look like making a fresh, amended listing (my plan B) is going to make much difference. But I won't let that stop me trying
    Being told "no" is a fair-sized obstacle isn't it? The "appeal" sounds like another opportunity for the same people to say "no" again if nothing has changed...

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    That's about the only option left to me nobby. I'm working on an amended cache page now. It's been suggested to me that I hold the event in a local pub... because that wouldn't be a commercial location, would it? Swap a family-friendly location with no requirement to spend anything (I even give co-ords for free parking) for a less family-friendly location where you'd reasonably expected to buy a drink or two, as a minimum. Anyway, there's no pub for miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian View Post
    Please contact Groundspeak directly as requested to do so concerning the event, as they have decided that it is a commercial enterprise, the listing of a event there will have to have their approval. As this is beyond the remit of Volunteer Reviewers. The event submission was Archived on their instructions.

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    Is this another of those guideline "changes" that no-one is told of, or is it somewhat deeper.

    I seem to remember that in the distant past - well before last April anyway - we were happy to post events that had an OPTIONAL extra activity that could have attracted an entry fee; Anderton Boat Lift adventure, Froncysyllte Aquaduct adventure being 2 that spring to mind..........and no-one from GSP objected - indeed were we not once told by a senior lackey that, as long as the extra activity was clearly optional it was fine.

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    Happy Humphrey wrote:
    Then all you do is link to this waymark in the Event description. GS can hardly object to a link which leads to their own website, and there's no restriction on submitting commercial fitness trails to Waymarking.
    Why does Kafka come to mind...? h34r:
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    Dunno: do you detect a mounting sense of powerlessness and anxiety in the face of a menacing and omniscient bureaucracy,perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Humphrey View Post
    Dunno: do you detect a mounting sense of powerlessness and anxiety in the face of a menacing and omniscient bureaucracy,perhaps?
    ​​Do not go gentle into that good night.
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    Thanks guys, that's all given me a much-needed chuckle. Here's the amended page. Lets see if TPTB jump on it again. Just for reference, here's what was ok in 2005: Go Ape in Grizedale Forest

    My totally new event proposal. If this doesn't pass you'll all be able to see where the line is drawn...:

    Return to Wendover Woods (Bucks)

    Sunday September 14th, from 12pm at Wendover Woods, near Aylesbury, Bucks


    Cache event returns to Wendover Woods! Having enjoyed the Burgers, Buns & Chums!! event here in 2005, I thought it was time to come back to this great, family-friendly location. Who needs a stuffy pub when there's the great outdoors to have a geocache event in?!

    Parking: Can be found in the ample main car park (follow Wendover Woods signs and/or head for the entrance opposite the golf club at N47.199 W000 42.939) and is £3 all day. But! if you continue along the road (or stop early if coming from the south of the woods) to N51 45.930 W000 41.874 you'll find other, free parking with road access close by. A little 0.8mile walk to the event site from there though - Bring a bike?

    The Event: Rather than a BBQ I suggest people bring their own packed lunch, although if someone wants to bring BBQ equipment (I'm no cook!) it may be possible to have one of those too. There's undercover seating at the given location and picnic tables close by. There's also a pleasant cafe and toilets, including a disabled one, within a minute's walk.

    The Woods: Wendover Woods are a 325 hectare mixed coniferous and broadleaved woodland managed by the Forestry Commission. Situated on the northern edge of the Chiltern Hills escarpment it affords spectacular views across the Vale of Aylesbury, and contains Buckinghamshire's highest point, marked with a cairn. There are several forest trails through the woods, including The Firecrest Trail (2.8miles, 2hours) named after Europe's smallest bird, which nests in the area April to September. There's also A Forest Fitness Trail (0.9m/1h), All Ability Hilltop Trail suitable for wheelchair users (0.6m/30min) and a Family Cycle Trail of 6 miles (2 hours). There's also a network of horse-riding trails, a mountain bike course at nearby Aston Hill, children's play equipment and an aerial adventure course for ages 10+ (charged for). There are even some caches in and close to the wood!

    Please note: There is no requirement to take part in any other activities to attend this strictly non-commercial event! Any links are included only for your information and should not be taken as a recommendation or suggestion of further activities. This Geocaching Event is free to attend, open to all cachers and will feature classic caching chit-chat and coin and TB swapping.

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