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Thread: emCache - the East Midlands Geocaching community

  1. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian View Post
    Just so we are very clear, you accessed GC using your Sock Account to post the message?

    You have revealed you have been Banned from GC, yet the notification you received from Groundspeak in regards to that Ban, would have made it very clear that you were not to access the Site using any account? Because that is standard practice by Groundspeak.

    And can we make it clear, that the complaint to the Police was against 2 Named members of EMCache, not EMCache it's self. Because that is what publicly the person who made the complaint, has posted elsewhere.

    Please confirm if I have it correct that you have accessed GC despite being Banned? And the complaint was specifically against 2 named persons

    Deci
    All the above seems rather attacking, aggressive and bitter to me, from the little knowledge I have about the ongoing problems that there seem to exist between certain individuals. Is it not time to stop attacking people in this way, and follow Tim's example and walk away, head held high? And this is directed at everyone, not just Deci.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ve8 View Post

    This will be my last post on this thread,
    And I think this line in Tim's post precludes him from replying to Deci's post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ve8 View Post
    Suggesting smudger105e is ignoring one side of a story is unfair as he was only quoting a closure notice.
    Thank you, Tim.

    I also would like to say I am not ignoring one side of the story, as I know almost nothing about both sides of the story!! I do not know who I would consider to be in the wrong, as I know the arguments or grievances on neither side!

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    In order that everyone who was an EMcache member can still chat and communicate, I have created a Facebook Group called East Midlands Geocachers. If you wish to be added to the group, just request on Facebook

    I know Facebook is not the be all and end all, and that not everyone has an account, but it's better than nothing.

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    A shame, emCache had to have been one of the most active UK Geocaching communities out there!

    Thank you Tim, and Bobbinz, for both your hard work in keeping it running for so long
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    Quote Originally Posted by smudger105e View Post
    In order that everyone who was an EMcache member can still chat and communicate, I have created a Facebook Group called East Midlands Geocachers. If you wish to be added to the group, just request on Facebook

    I know Facebook is not the be all and end all, and that not everyone has an account, but it's better than nothing.
    I was going to add the group to the master list of Regional Facebook groups, but can't find a group called "East Midlands Geocachers". Can you give me a link please.
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    Jen, I can't find that group either, but there is now a new Emcache Facebook page of which I am a member. The new Facebook page is administered by some of the old Emcache members and their page can be found here. Again, as with GeM ~ Geocaching Midlands, it is a closed group so people will have to ask to join. https://www.facebook.com/home.php?re...5856194503174/

    Both groups are running well side by side and a lot of people are members of both. GeM can be found here https://www.facebook.com/home.php?re...roups/JoinGeM/

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    Well I'm bloody confused.

    I took a few months off and everything disappears.

    Grow the f*** up people, it may be a game but it doesn't mean you have to be childish.

    On a friendlier note .. where is the emcache community now? They were a friendly bunch.

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    See the post above yours for the Facebook groups.
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  8. #23

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    By the looks of things, someone else has started another emCache forum

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    I missed the latest posts in this thread until I was looking round to find any information about the rebirth of the emcache website.

    I only went to my first emcache event in sept 2011 and signed up for the forums not long after so missed all the goings on and only learned of some tension from the odd post or shoutbox comment, even from this i could tell that in the past there had been a falling out between cachers.

    So i know next to nothing of the original problem or any that have come up along the way like most of the emcache members, most of us just want to cache for goodness sakes.

    What has made me want to post here about this is the post from Deci directed at Tim can i just say WOW i didnt know you could put so much hate in a forum post.

    So it turns out that Deci knows more about this ongoing falling out than me or most emcache members, like most other bits of information on the issue no facts are ever posted and was hoping Deci could let us all know the details since it looks like you know loads more about this than i or other emcachers.

    I think if all this was out in the open it would have gone away a long time ago and people could just get on with caching.

    I'm a member of both facebook groups EMcache2012 and Gem and have not had any problems with either and wish other people could do the same.

  10. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless-steel-rat View Post
    I missed the latest posts in this thread until I was looking round to find any information about the rebirth of the emcache website.

    I only went to my first emcache event in sept 2011 and signed up for the forums not long after so missed all the goings on and only learned of some tension from the odd post or shoutbox comment, even from this i could tell that in the past there had been a falling out between cachers.

    So i know next to nothing of the original problem or any that have come up along the way like most of the emcache members, most of us just want to cache for goodness sakes.

    What has made me want to post here about this is the post from Deci directed at Tim can i just say WOW i didnt know you could put so much hate in a forum post.

    So it turns out that Deci knows more about this ongoing falling out than me or most emcache members, like most other bits of information on the issue no facts are ever posted and was hoping Deci could let us all know the details since it looks like you know loads more about this than i or other emcachers.

    I think if all this was out in the open it would have gone away a long time ago and people could just get on with caching.

    I'm a member of both facebook groups EMcache2012 and Gem and have not had any problems with either and wish other people could do the same.
    Tim had my support and I went to bat to for him, only to end up with a sewer being dumped on my head, when a lot of the truth came out.

    There was tit for tat involved. But a lot of it, could have been avoided, if instead of sticking the knife in, then deleting the posts on FB (and people started screen grabbing the posts, as evidence, before they were deleted), in reaction to some very unwarranted comments and emails. If Tim had come directly to me with them, I would have spoken to those involved.

    The whole mess could have been stopped in it's tracks, instead. What was a very special Stats Site, supported by Bryan one of Groundspeak's owners, (and who I had personally gone to expressing support for the project), personally once a week, ran a "All UK, query of the Database, so pulling everything in the UK for Tim, to use in his Stats site.

    Because of the nastiness, and no I am not joking that happened on both sides. A number requested that their cache data was pulled off the Stats Site (again I went to bat on Tim's Side in support) pointing out Groundspeak was providing the Data under Licence. Tim refused, they then went to Groundspeak, who then agreed that their Data be pulled, Tim then pulled down the Stats Site.

    And when he did, he posted a now very Famous Landing Page, which had

    "GAGB Bar Stewards! on the page, and there are saved copies of that page. If anyone wishes to argue. And at the same time, what had actually been happening, was brought to my attention.

    So there is some of what happened, some more I am aware of but was not involved in. Belongs to others to explain what happened.

    I will fight tooth and nail for those who I know, or truly believe are in the right. But I expect them to be totally honest with me, due to that.

    What I will not sit back and let happen, are those who lie to me, give me half stories and untruths, in order to get me to help them with their mischief.

    Nor will I sit back when they try to destroy, those who give so much for the community, or try to pull down the GAGB , with unwarranted attacks

    Both as a Member and as a Reviewer, I have put a huge amount of personal commitment into this hobby. As both I have worked with Landowners, I was the first person to organise a CITO in the UK, and that involved Permission off CADW, as it took place at Fflint Castle, I was the first person at least in Wales, and possibly the UK to obtain Landowner Permission for a cache in a SSSI, CCW were involved in that one, So I worked with the 2Designating Authorities in Wales from the start.

    So I am very protective of this Hobby and it's future. And will not stand by and watch anyone try to destroy it, in any way.

    All of the above can lead to Bolshie posts at times, but the well being of the Hobby is always at the heart of them.

    Personal Statement of Interest!

    Geocaching is more than just a hobby for me personally. As a Full Time Carer to 3 Members of my Family. It gives me a permanent Escape, from the 4 Wall Syndrome, all Carers suffer from. It has given me a huge number of Friends, from the virtually zero I had before becoming a Geocacher. I have Gained in confidence thousands of percent (I spent the weekend, Playing Santa at 2 separate events. 10 years ago, you'd have had a hope in hells chance of me ever doing that). Over the last 10 Years I have been to Up and down the Country to events (which are respite for both me and my family, because it gets us apart). I've achieved something I had wanted to do for 40 years (the Morecambe Bay walk) with other Reviewers and a Lackey, well over 100 people I consider good friends, and another 100+ I consider friends. So this is not a hobby or a passion, it is a Life Line, for me Personally. That is how much Geocaching means to me!
    My post is my personal opinion and as such you do not have my permission to quote me outside of these forums!

    Dave
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    Formerly known as Mancunian Pyrocacher on GC

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