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    I saw HH's post re the BMC and i have alluded to similarities between the BMC and GAGB in the past.

    One organisation represents climbers in the UK.

    They discuss access, environment and liase directly with landowners.

    They are quite big and have paid up members.

    The BMC organise regular crag clean up days a CITO approach would probably be good way to get in touch.

    Bear in mind cleaning sometimes mean route cleaning on a big dangly rope h34r:

    http://www.thebmc.co.uk/Pages.aspx?page=152
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    Not sure I fancy CITO on the end of a long dangly rope

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    It's interesting that when the BMC come across an access issue, they manage to enlist the might of the National Park Authority in support, not to mention TV stations and the Ramblers.

    I'm not saying that GAGB should try and do exactly the same, but it might be worth learning from this approach.

    For example, having someone on every County Council who fully understands the nature of geocaching and who has agreed to help with access issues (I don't call them "cache permission" issues: I believe that the placing of the box is not the problem, it's the visitors). Even if they are only prepared to go as far as sending an official letter to the landowner to verify that geocaching is an officially-sanctioned pastime that is well-regarded (fresh air, exercise, obesity etc.) and to consider working with cachers to find a suitable site.

    Only one suggestion, but I wonder whether the BMC access negotiators would have some better ideas? Could it hurt to make contact with them?

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    I agree that contact with the BMC would be interesting and I think it would be useful to make contact with them and discuss this further.

    There are already some contacts amongst landowners who have acted as advocates and this has helped enormously with other later permissions. However, they are currently relatively few in number so we have been careful in how we use their support.

    Visitors are part of the issue for landowners because landowners usually focus on people's impact on their land, safety for those people, and the impact of the cache itself. These are all part of most negotiations that I conduct and these have been generally successful so far although I'm always keen to find out if there are better ways to do this.

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    Also remember The Mountaineering Council of Scotland the sister organisation to the BMC for those "little" hills north of the border

    They have a lot of information regarding access etc and have a great insurance scheme for members

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwendolyn View Post
    Also remember The Mountaineering Council of Scotland the sister organisation to the BMC for those "little" hills north of the border

    They have a lot of information regarding access etc and have a great insurance scheme for members
    Whilst insurance is something we've always fought shy of, and indeed have found almost impossible to get realistic quotes for, I'd be interested to hear more about that insurance scheme, whether here in the forums or by way of a PM to me.

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    I joined the BMC because of the insurance scheme. If you take part in guided climbing, in some cases (perhaps all, I'm not sure) the guide doesn't provide insurance so you need your own. The BMC scheme is tailored to suit outdoor activities (as you'd expect) and is pretty cheap if you're a member.

    http://www.thebmc.co.uk/modules/insurance/Policies.aspx

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