A great Motorway Mayhem cache?

[Mrs Blorenge]

This caught my eye over in the Terracaching Topic

Can anyone say that a motorway mayhem is a great cache ? honestly ?

Rather than derail that discussion I thought it was worth separate consideration as a new topic.

Have you found a great MM cache? Maybe 'great' is too much to expect... How about a very good MM cache?

I think that Forked Tong comes into the "very good" category.

Anyone else know of others?

[Dave Gerrie]

Depends on what you like I suppose!

If you take away the MM aspect, and the cache could stand on its own two feet away from a motorway, then to my mind that makes it reasonable.

For example, our own MM cache is a proper ammo can and I feel it would be acceptable if it was away from the motorway. Admittedly, the location isn't brilliant, but its a replacement for one which was at a very nice view, only it got muggled.

I can't recall them off hand, but I'm sure there are good quality caches that happen to be termed MM caches (and vice versa, of course!).

Ai agree that there are a lot of service station car park micros, but there are plenty of other micros that aren't called MM caches. I don't thyink the MM tag is what makes a cache low quality.

Not a very coherent argument here! : I suppose what I'm saying is that I don't see why there should be a difference between MM and any other caches - a bit of imagination and it can be every bit as good as a 'normal' cache.

[esim]

Ok, so not many of the mayhem caches are all that exciting, I do however like them as they provides a nice break on my travels all over the country. :coffee:

Though I must say that I have left without logging a few of them when they are placed in the less sanitary places. (e.g.at base of trees where dogs and lazy people..)

My favourites are the mayhem's that are not at service stations but can still be reached without getting muddy as I'd usually have to go in to meetings afterwards..

My favourite was stuck under a hub-cap under a hedge. I'd lifted the hubcap to look under it twice before I found it. Another was hidden in a set of cars-eyes. So even though they are not in the most scenic places they can still be a challenge to find.

[markandlynn]

This caught my eye over in the Terracaching Topic

Rather than derail that discussion I thought it was worth separate consideration as a new topic.

Have you found a great MM cache? Maybe 'great' is too much to expect... How about a very good MM cache?

I think that Forked Tong comes into the "very good" category.

Anyone else know of others?

Reading the logs for that i can glean the following we found it in 2006 btw


more than made up for a couple of disappointing caches we've logged over the last week or so.

Many MM caches are a bit dull but this one really excels on all levels

All I will say is if more motorway mayhem caches were like this (as in thought given) I would stop insulting them .

Great title, great cache - very funny and one of the best Motorway Mayhem caches I've done.

Thanks for this cache, it's one of the best Motorway Mayhem caches that I have done, if not the best!

, he recalled that there was a "dead good Motorway Mayhem cache about a Forked Tongue" He thought it
I had wondered how a micro cache could be rated so highly and now I know why. Brilliant

Very unusual and innovative cache container, why can't more caches be as interesting as this!

Great motorway mayhem cache in a very nice location.

As ever innovation is the key with this one. Its not to hard to find and yet has an interesting slant. Id also say its not really an MM cache, i thought they were meant to be in the service stations ?

[Mrs Blorenge]

I don't think MM caches have to be at Service stations: Neither of our two are! As I understand the idea, they should be close enough to a motorway junction to allow someone to take a short break, stretch their legs and find a relatively easy cache.

Our two both require coming off at a motorway junction, driving about half a mile, then parking and doing a short, easy walk to the cache. Each one takes no more than half an hour in total, from coming off the motorway to getting back on it again.

[markandlynn]

I don't think MM caches have to be at Service stations: Neither of our two are! As I understand the idea, they should be close enough to a motorway junction to allow someone to take a short break, stretch their legs and find a relatively easy cache.

Our two both require coming off at a motorway junction, driving about half a mile, then parking and doing a short, easy walk to the cache. Each one takes no more than half an hour in total, from coming off the motorway to getting back on it again.

In which case i own a motorway mayhem cache. :socool:

It is of course the best in the country and im rightfully proud of it.:cheers:

[Mrs Blorenge]

In which case i own a motorway mayhem cache. :socool:

It is of course the best in the country and im rightfully proud of it.:cheers:

Of course!

But I think to make it 'qualify officially' as a MM cache it has to have Motorway Mayhem in the title and also a link to the MM 'background image' URL. Then you need to send the link to the geocacher who set up the original idea.

And, no, I can't remember who that is now! In fact, I don't think I've given them the link for our second MM cache which we set about 3 months back.

<MrsB puts a note on her "To Do" list>

[Alan White]

There, so there can be great - or at least very good - MM caches . Certainly Dave Gerrie's at M25 J8 (the ammo box, not the micro) is an example of a very good MM cache.

Amberel's Thames Path - Motorway Mayhem, M25 J13 is also good though I wouldn't really regard it as a MM cache.

I think the series contributes to the perception. If a cache is MM then almost by definition people expect it to be a "bad" cache. As Dave says, there shouldn't be a quality difference just because one cache has Motorway Mayhem in the title and another, which also happens to be near a motorway exit, doesn't.

I prefer MM caches not to be at service areas. If it's a local cache then getting to the service area can often be tricky and/or expensive. Service areas are also busy places with lots of CCTV and rubbish. Junctions, however, often have quiet spots very close by and fewer muggles.

Remember, there's no rule that prohibits more than one MM cache at a motorway exit. If the one already there disappoints, place another .

[Happy Humphrey]

Amberel's Thames Path - Motorway Mayhem, M25 J13 is also good though I wouldn't really regard it as a MM cache.

Looks like a poor one, really, from the POV of MM caches. I wouldn't want to use it for a break from a long drive, particularly wearing city clothes. It does look good as a stand-alone, however.

Motorway Mayhem M3 J4A
is recommended: only a few paces from a good parking spot on the edge of some nice quite woodland.

[Alan White]

Looks like a poor one, really, from the POV of MM caches.

And a good example of how the name of a cache can change perception, in this case in the opposite direction from usual .

Motorway Mayhem M3 J4A is recommended: only a few paces from a good parking spot on the edge of some nice quite woodland.

Yes, a very good MM cache for those requiring a "real" MM cache. It's also now right on the route of a circular walk of 22 caches so the walk/break can extend as far and for as long as you like.

[amberel]

Looks like a poor one, really, from the POV of MM caches. I wouldn't want to use it for a break from a long drive, particularly wearing city clothes. It does look good as a stand-alone, however.

You're absolutely right about it being a very poor MM cache, it's actually a Thames Path cache that starts on one side of the M25 and finishes on the other, and the MM tag is quite wrong. It shouldn't be too much trouble doing it in decent clothes, but it's not a good MM because it's a multi, and there's no parking very close (unless you stopped on the M25 hard shoulder oops, that should be .

I'll let you into a little secret about why it was called that. As you walk under the two massive bridges that carry the M25 and the slip roads over the Thames, one of the bridges has a doorway in it. The door itself has been missing for years. There is a vertical steel ladder inside, and you can wander about right inside the superstructure of the bridge, under the carriageway. It's pitch dark in there. My original thought was to hide the cache inside, but after reflection I decided that, fun as it might be, it was NOT a good idea, so I moved it further down the river.

I think I'll change the name to just Thames Path - M25 - you can change the name, can't you, or is that likely to screw things up for anyone?

Motorway Mayhem M3 J4A
is recommended: only a few paces from a good parking spot on the edge of some nice quite woodland.

Yes, that was a good one - probably pushing it to say "great", but definitely good. I did it a couple of weeks ago, together with a few others in the area. Then when I got home I found the 22 Alan mentioned had been published while I was out hmy:. Oh, well, they'll still be there another day .

Rgds, Andy