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    Angry S3090 Hillwood

    Another sudden & unexpected casualty.

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    I have a Geocaching problem...
    Work gets in the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentmancuso View Post
    Another sudden & unexpected casualty.
    how does that happen? Is it like the farmer is annoyed with it and just removes it or something? Can they just do that?

    sorry, trignoob here, no idea whats legal and not but eager to find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuchan View Post
    how does that happen? Is it like the farmer is annoyed with it and just removes it or something? Can they just do that?

    sorry, trignoob here, no idea whats legal and not but eager to find out.
    Many sudden extinctions do occur at the hands of rogue farmers unfortunately. In some cases it is understandable, such as when the trig sits in the middle of a ploughed field and gets in the way of tractors. But where it stands on top of a knoll in a pasture field surrounded by trees & boulders, as with Hillwood, then it's difficult to know quite why the pillar has been destroyed.

    In theory pillars are government property, and so damaging one can probably land you in the Tower of London or whatever, but in practice the OS generally did acquiesce whenever the landowner asked permission to remove a pillar.

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    Farmer getting fed up of too many people visiting it?

    How far down has he dug, as I understand it, trig pillars go down quite a way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear and Ragged View Post
    Farmer getting fed up of too many people visiting it?

    How far down has he dug, as I understand it, trig pillars go down quite a way...
    According to T:UK the pillar was visited by about two people a year; I know there are some trig baggers who don't log on T:UK, but there can't be that many. In any case, the pillar was both remote from any buildings and close to a RoW, so it's reasonable to assume that very few visitors were ever observed.

    Yes, there is a couple of feet of concrete below the pillar. Not the sort of thing a sane person would dig out with a trowel - usually dragging by tractor seems to be the favoured m.o.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentmancuso View Post
    Many sudden extinctions do occur at the hands of rogue farmers unfortunately. In some cases it is understandable, such as when the trig sits in the middle of a ploughed field and gets in the way of tractors. But where it stands on top of a knoll in a pasture field surrounded by trees & boulders, as with Hillwood, then it's difficult to know quite why the pillar has been destroyed.

    In theory pillars are government property, and so damaging one can probably land you in the Tower of London or whatever, but in practice the OS generally did acquiesce whenever the landowner asked permission to remove a pillar.
    lordy, what a waste

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuchan View Post
    lordy, what a waste
    Well, in a sense, yes. But the network is now obsolete, and even those few pillars that were converted to passive stations will soon be out of a job again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentmancuso View Post
    Well, in a sense, yes. But the network is now obsolete, and even those few pillars that were converted to passive stations will soon be out of a job again.

    still heritage in a sense tho, at least how I percieve it

    it might not be obvious now, but still...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuchan View Post
    still heritage in a sense tho, at least how I percieve it
    Absolutely right, of course. But try explaining 'heritage' to some pitchfork-wielding redneck intent on smashing up a pillar...

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    This really saddens me, I wish there was an easy way of rescuing and re-siting them, Mind you if there was I'd probably have a garden full of them, lol.

    It's a pity the OS haven't protected them from this sort of action, purely from a historical point of view. I think they are historically quite important and it's such a shame to see their demise. I doubt many people agree, even the OS, and while there are still thousands of them it may not seem a big issue to them, but every one that vanishes is one reminder less of such an important part of the history of mapping.

    Well that's my opinion anyway, lol.
    Last edited by trigbagger; 16th October 2009 at 06:08 PM.

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