Hi guys we've just attempted our first Cache Yeterday it was unsucssful but totally enjoyable Basicly it was the undergrowth that defeated us (we was wearing summer cloths legs got stung to bits) we do a lot of walking and are used to using os explorer maps although our garmin vista c performed very well we did miss the map detail our question is which mapping sotware is the best/cheapest for offroad does roads and recreation have enough detail and also for the future is metroguide the only option for car satnav thanks in advance for your replies